Subject: Israel – The Throwback

It doesnt matter that this time it wasnt rockets, if the blockade was lifted next time it will be rockets.
Do you realize over 500,000 are leaving under missiles?

CNN - Autopsies reveal 9 men on Gaza aid boat shot, 5 in head
- "From the analysis of the bullet distance on one of the bodies," Dr. Ince said, "the gun was fired between 2 and 14 centimeters' distance from the victim's head."

ABC - American, 19, Among Gaza Flotilla Dead
- The victim was identified as Furkan Dogan, 19, a Turkish-American. A forensic report said he was shot at close range, with four bullets in his head and one in his chest, according to the Anatolian news agency.

i dont suport that of course, just surprised the boats were attacked on international waters, why on int waters? and why just advised before coming to the boat instead of coming into the night with surpirse element?

yeah this is what i meant about executions.

too bad he didnt have 10 bullets in his head.

friggin radical islamic terroists.

What is the problem with the block if any ship can come and bring what ever it wants but no weapons or steel that will be used to missiles ?
The siege was intended to prevent weapons or components for making missiles , as well as because the kidnapped soldier
doesn't get any rights by any international convention

u tell me: block only to avoid them making weapons. Thats fine for me

So...why to stop the boat in int watres, and without any advise to the boat captains until the attack, if they just wanted to check no weapons in the boat? i cant understund it

if you make it so hard to get food in gaza, i wouldn't make myself much illusions that your soldier who is prisoned will get much food :p

We hate and criticise ourselves more than any Palestinian ever would.

Well you don't do that here in forums and you never see that in international forums or media. Against outside you do form an unity that has very strong points that are not negotionable. So like in current conflict, I have not seen lots of Israeli people that just did admit that maybe:

a) it is not professional to drop people on a boat with potential hostile people one by one, because that soldiers on the boat will face a majority without having a formation or enough people by their side.
b) maybe this tactical mistake lead to soldiers losing their heads and shooting on people that were partly unarmed, partly armed with weapons far weaker than guns and that this may be seen as a mistake also.

I mean if it was a mistake it was not a planned execution that Israel commit, if it was a mistake it was planning human error that should lead to "small" consequences in the army and a public statement that that was to drastic and partly because of planning error. So no real big deal. But to stay on your point of that being a very dangerous situation totally out of your hands and with all the right on your side to kill that guys may lead to people all over the world shacking their heads and rising criticism, that would not appear if your standpoint would not be so arrogant and non-correctable.

You do that by shot to the head! That's proper traing!

No it isn't. If you see your "enemy" does not have any guns you do not aim for the head. In any conflict like demonstrations, police learns to take weapons away from enemy, if everything fails and you have to use weapons, you first aim at air, secondly at the non-fatal organs like leg.
Actually even in the military training I had, it was highly forbidden to aim at head at all.. even if that does say nothing for this conflict, it makes a (big) question mark for me....

It is allowed under Blockade rules to cease a ship in international waters.
There were mistakes made there
1. taking the ship at night
2. arming the soldiers with paintball rifles.
3. lowering them by helis, so they got butchered once they got down.

Yes planty of mistakes I am sure there are more, but if they wanted to aid and not kill they wouldnt wait with knives and iron bars. Thats not a peace activist.

About the kidnapped soldiers:
I am sure someone will be able to bring you the photos of the soldiers below deck injured and captured. or better yet the reporter from al Jhazira who were on the boat who said that what happened on the media.

how do u know they were islamic? do u also know their job, or maybe the football team do they support?


so if there is a die one, is his fault because he is islamist..but how can u know that?
Thats a dangerous mentality, thinking people who thinks different than you is authomathic an islamist. Is dangerous even you dont realize it, it is the root of fascism

About the kidnapped soldiers:
I am sure someone will be able to bring you the photos of the soldiers below deck injured and captured. or better yet the reporter from al Jhazira who were on the boat who said that what happened on the media.

info i said about eecutions was confirmed by many diffferent medias, but this ones, u ar using irony but still is not confirmed

he gun was fired between 2 and 14 centimeters

with four bullets in his head

But heyyyy it was self defence

It is sad that some goverments can do what ever they want without being punished, even in international waters...
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what the hell are you talking about?

the soldiers were attacked by turkish people who belonged to terrosits groups and were trained by them.

and the IHH, the organization behind the flotilla IS a terroist org who has connections with al quaida and more terror groups.

its called FACTS.

i wonder what you would have done when attacked by an angry mob who wants to lynch you and throw your body to the ocean.

but heyyyyy..

All the things your saying we know that our selves.
If you notice you only was faster then I am in one min and I said the same thing.

Were doing plenty of criticizing...

Knives are weapons.

BTW according to the captain of the ship they had pistols which they threw off deck.