Subject: Junior school... is it really worth it?

Like the title says, is it really worth it in the long term?

not when you are just starting out... many will argue not at all. but, once you are an established B league squad with no money concerns, it can be useful. I just sold a 17 year old defender pull for $1mill... though i sell a lot of players for $1.

I agree here. I used to play sokker a few years ago, and had an amazing junior school that I invested in, and even had a couple players from my school make it to the NT. It can be incredibly worth the investment if you do it right.

But now, when I tried to start up my school too fast and strong, I lost money very, very quickly with no results. I would have lost my team to bankruptcy 2 days ago if I had not gotten really lucky selling my star player. You have to be prepared to be spending a decent amount of money with no returns for at least 8 weeks (just a guess...that could be a too optimistic number). When I had my awesome school, I kept a spreadsheet of expenses and revenue, and I was consistently losing money. I would make some here and there off of average trainees, but didn't actually post a profit until about 36 or so weeks in when I was able to sell a guy for 1 million+, and another a few weeks later for 3.25 million.

In my opinion, there is absolutely no financial room in C-league for a junior school. For starters, you don't want to waste money on a sub-par coach that pumps out only sub-par trainees. You also want to make sure the bulk of your finances are funding your main squad with a decent training plan, until you can start selling off trainees for the extra cash needed to open the school without sacrificing the overall talent of your main squad. The money you could spend on an average head coach, average junior coach, and junior school size could be much better spent on a really good head coach. So to continue on what ivysafety said, wait until you are established in B-league with no money problems before opening the school. Definitely wait out this season to make sure you don't get relegated, and probably wait until about halfway through next season to see how you are doing before you open it up.



Edit: Actually now that I think of it, I only broke even from the first guy that sold for $1m. I still might have been slightly in the red overall until the second stud came out...so you should be prepared to be losing $1m while you build up your school.

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agree with starsfan- it is a big crapshoot, but you are required to spend alot of money on good coach and trainees for along time UNTIL you hit a jackpot.

no

NO - economic viewpoint only,
yes- once you have 50K a week to burn then helps keep interest in game
YES- to give better chance for USA to have better NT

Thanks for the answers

definitely not, until you have an established economy. an incredible coach is generally worth around 22k, and if you have 11 spots that's a 33k~ investment per week. 33k x 14 weeks in the season = 462k investment per season. I personally think you can better invest that money in a better head coach with some nice assistants and then purchase some trainees on the market.

a fully developed youthsquad costs 1m-1.25m per season depending on your level of coach (30 spots x 16 weeks x 30-50k coach)

Thanks again.

Another nice thing about the junior school is once you start training some decent youth, you get first crack on keeping them on your team. I've been slowly building a future with the occasional youth. So far each season I've pulled a future star (as far as a #1-#3 B-league team such as myself is concerned). A single pull can make up for a lot of lost money as you build it up. I've played many seasons but am still noob here; which is actually why I wanted to share my opinion. Costs alot to operate and I wouldn't suggest bothering until a person goes to B-league and has a million in the bank as you may lose funds for several seasons with the extra 50k+ weekly tab.

"agree with starsfan- it is a big crapshoot, but you are required to spend alot of money on good coach and trainees for along time UNTIL you hit a jackpot."

If you EVER hit the jackpot.

I've had a JS for 10 seasons and I am thinking about shutting it down because I spend $40k-$61K per week and have very little to show for it.

So I've basically pissed away over $8M.

The only thing I've ever really done with the juniors that have graduated is use them in my friendlies in order to protect my starters from getting hurt.

Why I'm still doing it, I'm a freakin retard.

I've had about 3 good pulls, 2 this season! and I started in season 4.


If you can afford it, keep it open for your country. :D

the country arguement is imo the best reason to have a ys

Once you open it though it's like crack. Because you're bound to see someone in the YS who "might be talented" and don't want to close the school down waiting for him to exit.. In that time, you find another guy who "might be super talented etcc.."

I've had the YS for 6-7 seasons so I've invested maybe around 7-8 M in it. On my stats page I show 6.5 M in profits from my juniors' sales + I have 3 of them on my team now. I think I am breaking even or getting a small profit. And there is always a chance of getting a "supertalent".

I'd say if you can afford it, run the school.