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Subject: [IDEA] new tiebreaker order of criteria

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2018-02-25 23:28:41
bronho to All
The goal diference in a group so small (only 8 teams) is nonsense on sokker reality. Because teams "forgot" lineup your teams and benefits someones.

The criteria order need to be:

1. direct confrontation.
2. minor ranking.
2018-02-26 00:59:50
I don't see the nonsense. Goal difference is the correct tie-breaker as I see it. Direct confrontation is the very last tie-breaker I would consider (after goal difference and goals scored). Direct confrontation is the one that makes least sense as a tie breaker in a league, as it goes against the idea of a league system: it's about overall performance over the season, not about the performance on any single match (that's what knock'out tournaments are for). In fact, a play-off between the tied teams is also better, but not possible in Sokker.

I really don't see how the size of Sokker groups would matter for goal difference being the superior tie-breaker. Even in the World Cup (4 teams, 3 matches each, vs 8 teams, 14 matches each) it is the priority one tie-breaker.
I think Sokker is in the right on this one.
2018-02-28 02:56:36
Goal difference is the correct tie-breaker as I see it.

In the real life, maybe. The judges of sports punish purpose loses and non-fair play. But here, many leagues are decided by a team who "forgot" line up and put 2x2 team on field.

This is nonsense, unfair, depredated... choose the adjective that you like, but this way is wrong.
2018-02-28 02:59:35
I bet that you think well for Argentina 6x0 Peru in 1978. But this things are unpleasant to competition because we know... its suspicious.

Imagine on sokker where 2x2 tatics had nothing of suspicious, its a certain.
2018-02-28 16:13:00
I know many competitions the goal difference was so small it was exciting till the last match who would become winner and promote to higher divisions.

Ofcourse it's fucked up if someone forgets the line up and that goal difference decides the outcome of the competition, but these things can happen. It is still a game.

Or teams getting replaced in the middle of a season, that happens a lot more often. Others and I have suggested to stop doing this. A bottom league like junior league would have been a solution. Replacing teams in this league would not have had such an impact on the best teams at the end of a season. But with only 8 teams, replacing even 1 team can have serious consequences for the complete league.

But as many other ideas for problems, things won't change. Sokker will be kept alive for as long as possible, I don't expect real implementations anymore like what happened in the first few years. Sokker is a hobby of the DEV's, nothing more. Many managers spend more time in Sokker as the owners do.

For example SkUnk, it makes Sokker a better game. Not made by the owners. oSokker was the same story. Options the DEVs should have implemented, they get money from Plus and on the Plus page telling managers investing money will make new implementations possible. Basically that is a lie, I don't see any new implementations for many years now.


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2018-03-01 00:38:27
If this is the reality, close this forum or change his name to BUGS SOKKER.
2018-03-02 08:22:05
Its more nonsense to give 3 points for a win in sokker.
In reality it makes sense, because you can manipulate a match for a remis.
But in sokker you can´t.
So every week there are lots of managers, who are punished with a remis to please a "we want it like in reality" rubbish, instead of playing football with useful rules, which were destroyed by corruption.

And there are more teams, who promote directly because they have several weak teams in their league,
instead of stronger teams who don´t promote, because someone slept well

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2018-03-05 17:08:56
But in sokker you can´t.

I can agree a draw with another coach. Make 0a0 the game is easy, just put stupid ATT and MID, and good DEF and GK in both teams.
2018-03-05 17:13:41
But I agree with your point, but your point not necessarily is against mine.
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