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Subject: [idea] Plus and non-plus users

2013-07-05 22:02:22
Yes. although I do not remember what changes exactly I made.
2013-07-05 22:04:44
If its OK for you, then perhaps update this list from time to time. Fe once a month or something.
2013-07-06 01:47:11
you forgot something. Promo PLUS and full PLUS. maybe you can make it separate? because i know the number who buy PLUS on indonesia are not 23.
2013-07-06 10:05:19
But is it recognizable from PLUS user team page? Do you mean guys with stars?
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2013-07-06 10:08:29
no. you must separate free PLUS from sokker as promotion and trully PLUS users who pays for PLUS subscription.
because if i am not wrong, PLUS users in indonesia only 3 users. Staff not count. on your data, indonesia has 23 with staff not count. so, 20 from them must be get sokker promo PLUS.
2013-07-06 10:21:40
I am sure that there were mistakes in Indonesia, but it is result of the fact that I do not full know how to differ a PLUS user from Staff PLUS user and from non PLUS user by looking on team's page.

Currently I check if there is "Guestbook" and "emblem_big" in team page source, but some of You (like team with id=46907) despite the fact that You have those elements on team page does not look on PLUS user. This guy and a lot more in Indonesia were for sure mistaken. I got their team ids in fact, so I can check.

The point is that I have to know how do differ PLUS and non PLUS teams. Current condition which looks more or less like 'if Guestbook and emblem and not joined today' fails in some cases.

EDIT: For example tell me: Are they PLUS users? Why? Why not?
http://online.sokker.org/glowna/teamID/111623
http://online.sokker.org/glowna/teamID/113717
http://online.sokker.org/glowna/teamID/46907
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2013-07-06 11:18:26
Looking at their club page these 3 managers are Plus users.
2013-07-06 11:57:39
Probably in one or two days from now they wont be. And there is more such users in Indonesia. Moreover, yesterday there were more users like them which now have not Guestbook etc. (e.g 46934, 113837 or 113017). Machine checked this and when it is saying that they had Guestbook on their pages then I believe it. That's why the mistakes was made. Maybe I should assume that plus user is user which is on sokker for at least three months (since one day and even one month could be not enough).
2013-07-06 12:15:46
http://online.sokker.org/glowna/teamID/111623
http://online.sokker.org/glowna/teamID/113717
http://online.sokker.org/glowna/teamID/46907


all of them are not PLUS users.

their PLUS are sokker promo PLUS. i forget the correct name for this. It is like welcome PLUS for new register users.

i know it by see their login history and by date they are joining.
from i know, it is very rare new users will buy plus directly under a month from they join.


just saw on rules, sokker promo PLUS=TRIAL PLUS.

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2013-07-06 12:16:59
maybe you can add filter for such as already PLAY sokker for at least 2 month?
2013-07-06 13:32:58
their PLUS are sokker promo PLUS. i forget the correct name for this. It is like welcome PLUS for new register users.

Ah you are right, from start they get 3 days free Plus and after one month they get again some free Plus. I forgot about that.
2013-07-11 20:40:50
Unfortunately, such condition will omit some real PLUS users.
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2013-07-12 00:51:39
ah.. how if filter by Trial PLUS and Full PLUS ?
Trial Plus has not complete PLUS features.
2013-07-12 07:39:55
What is it missing then?
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2013-07-12 13:57:07
It lasts only some days.
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2013-07-15 23:28:03
add an else/if to check if their team name changed in the past X weeks is all i can think of (checks match page vs current team name)
we can assume 1 week would do it as registration plus doesnt last long afaik...

obviously its best to do this only on the list of generated teams with plus :)

also it would filter out teams who legitimately did a team name change, but i think there is less who do this than actual new users