Subject: [idea]2nd team for plus members

know it sounds a bit extreme but i think its quite reasonable with the following rules

to be able to have 2nd team u have to:
play for at least 1 (so that newbies have reasonable experience before they get a chance to run 2nd team) years in sokker
be a plus member

both teams would be under control of same username, so everybody could see what ur second team is

then any friendly game or transfer between 2 teams would result in a ban (or basically it would be practical to disable bidding or proposing a friendly match, since its the same user)

What this would solve?

well, first of all i think it would greatly increase plus memberships, as it would finally give some practical use, however not an advantage against non plus users. (whenever plus expires secondary team would be controlled by bot, if plus is renewed control would be regained)

besides that, many old managers lose interest in this game and I think many managers would like to start all over again, to build a team from scratch, but they are just too tied to an old team to do that, thus they keep it, but keep losing interest in sokker as well, and eventually leave...

that minimum time of playing to be able to have second team, would make some of users stay for longer. and then it would prevent a problem that both teams end up in the same group (it is almost impossible to catch up)

From the thread, we have decided;

- That all 2nd teams will play in this “World League”. This League will be in a new “PLUS” Country. A Country separate from the Sokker World. This Country will have no NT and U21 team, it will just be a country with new divisions for the PLUS teams.

What will this bring

- Many Plus users want to start from the beginning, but also keep their current team. They want to see if they can do better than they did before, make a better team but also they will have the chance to show off their ability against many other experienced managers.

- The “World League” would be a very competitive and active league. This is what we want. Smaller countries will be able to experience a different play other than winning their league every season, but they will have to battle against teams from around the world.

- The League will by just like normal countries, split into divisions and so on.

- Managers from around the world will be able to battle against each other, not just their own country.

Transfer System / Cheating

- The transfer system would be the same market as we use today, if you forbid bidding between the same user then there would be no problems.

- Also, cheating will also be very unlikely because plus users are less likely to cheat, because they have money to lose….those who buy plus and would play there would be at risk of losing control for a month or two if they were caught cheating. This then could and probably will destroy both of the users teams

YOU DONT HAVE TO HAVE A SECOND TEAM, IT WILL BE YOUR CHOICE WHETHER TO SIGN UPTO THE WORLD LEAGUE OR NOT


ANOTHER SUMMARY OF IDEA

We want to let the Plus-users have a second team. Why? Because in every country that exists for quite a while, the same teams keep dominating their leagues. This is not only boring for them – they play a lot of matches they can never lose, only a few key matches a year that can decide about the championship – but also for the other teams. They can almost never win the top league. This is the basic information:
- first of all, transfers between a user’s first team and second team should be made impossible, the same as you cannot bid on your own players; if this isn’t possible, people should just get banned if they do transfers between their teams,
- the nationality of the new players created in the – let’s call it alternate Sokkerworld – should have the nationality ‘Plus’ – and this nation doesn’t get a National Team, as they would have a huge advantage due to the number of players – , so they cannot be selected for the national teams, as this would benefit the big countries, and we want to avoid that,
- the second teams of Plususers play in a World League, this makes it more interesting for users from small countries to have some fierce competition,
- only users who play at least one year of Sokker can have a second team, so that new users don’t screw up both their teams by being inexperienced,
- if a user’s Plus is expired, their team should continue as a bot, until they buy Plus again,
- the league system will be similar to the league system we know now, so 1 first division, 4 second divisions, 16 third divisions, and so on,
- of course, if a Plususer doesn’t want to do this, he won’t be assigned a second team, but if he wants a second team later, he’ll get it then,
- transfers between the original Sokkerworld and the alternate one are possible; this makes the prices stable in the alternate Sokkerworld, and it won’t influence the prices of the original one, because there will be more demand and more supply of players.
Now, what are the advantages of this idea:
- ‘old’ users get interested in the game again, because they lose interest in the original world by dominating their leagues for ages,
- ‘new’ users get to compete with the ‘old’ ones, without having a huge disadvantage,
- everyone can compete with all the best users all over the world,
- Plus gets interesting, so this might increase the number of Plususers, which means extra income for Sokker.
Disadvantages of this idea:
- none found so far.
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love it

are you able to get a poll into the thread? I thnk its fabulous idea...

The only problem could see though is what if both teams are in the same league, and they might use a team in a certain why which could affect the standings.
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I like the idea of having a new team but I don't think it'd be good for new users to be competing with experienced managers and also having much further to climb to the top. Inevitably some managers, especially in smaller leagues would soon end up with 2 teams in the top league as well.

Then i think the teams should be in different countries maybe?

id love a different country... especially as i live in england now... /:

i would also, i would like to experience a country with a different range of leagues.

this basically would not do any harm at all... it would just bring much more fun into game for a lot of users, and would also benefit devs...

oh wait i have got even better idea....

all 2nd teams would play in World league

which would basically be a one massive country..... thus all managers from all over the world could compete against each other

that may be a bit complicated

OK the different country idea solves the problem of having 2 teams in the same league. It also somewhat puts an end to even bigger leagues because numbers would balance out.
Experienced managers vs newbies? Well I suppose that could happen now anyway.

I actually like the idea of having a 2nd team because it offers a challenge. I mean who wouldn't want a crack at the challenge of a Polish league that included the best managers from all over the world.

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Hmmm

How about, instead of having a 2nd team in another country, the formation of a world league?

Ah you bugger, you got there before me, though I have suggested this before and I was told outright that there was no chance.
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Yep, here it is

Slightly different idea because I think I suggested taking teams out of the league they're in, instead of simply creating a 2nd league. And well, you can see the response

there is nothing complicated about that... just one additional country...

and it would be even more fun than just starting in another country, because in a 'world league' everyone would be 'new'

Can you go into more depth about the World League, i am still unsure of how it will work.

Also, timing is a problem in a "World League"
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taking teams out is obviously difficult.... if u take one out u have to replace it by sth etc... and those problems are kind of endless

here u just create a new one.... no problems attached

timing is as much of a problem as its in CCC - no problem...


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