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Subject: »Future NT stars (U21) NO ADS

2017-02-24 20:40:08
Dont lol, lol........ 30/70*100=42,8% extra...... so if friendly is 70% of max training, then yes, friendly+nt is 42% MORE then just friendly


You say 20% extra training..... so you think a friendly alone will give around 83,5 % of max training????


2017-02-24 20:59:00
lol lol :P

how would you invent training system if you were greg 15 years ago?
for me its obvious mechanism: every type of game has own factor (eg. 0,7 for friendly, 0,8 for official, 0,3 for NT - doesn't really matter how much exactly)

to calculate thursday update system count like this: game miuntes x game factor + (1 - game minutes x game factor) + [1 - game miuntes x game factor + (1 - game minutes x game factor)]

so every additional game give less bonus

imho is obvious altough i don't have any confirmed info about that. it's based on my intuition and hundreds of players trained and analysed in SokkerViewer

moreover it is simple to implement, and simple in the idea itself
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2017-02-24 22:01:19
spin to adaca
What do you want to say, that a player can receive more than 100% training?

U21 alone is around 45%, but combined with an official or friendly, it's only about 25-30%
2017-02-24 22:11:12
adaca to spin
Please stop, do you know %-math??? Heard about tax equations?? If we talk about how many % of MAX training, then yes, it is only 25-30%..... but if we talk about EXTRA training, it is about 35-42%..... it is just like when you substract and add taxes, it is not the same % it will give both ways. And if we talk about how much extra training it will give compared to only friendly, then you can define it as A: extra training to what he else would have received or B: how much extra training up to max training

Let me give you an example, so you hopefully understand

a player will by friendly give 0,5 pop (70% of max training), but if he played friendly + NT, he would have had 100% of max training. That would have given 0,5/70*100=0,71 pop

Now lets take 0,5 pop and 0,71 pop and compare the difference in %

(0,71-0,5)/0,5*100=42% extra training, then if he only had played friendly

Now please, do not answer with "you cant get more then 100% training", because it is basically the same as saying "i dont understand %-math"
2017-02-24 22:12:12
this has nothing to do with what im saying.... :) Im talking about % compared to what he would have had if only friendly..... not of max training
2017-02-24 23:18:03
0,7 friendly
0,5 NT
?

so if played both imo it would give 0,85 so only 21% more than only friendly
2017-02-24 23:33:30
exactly
2017-02-24 23:41:53
In other words regular u21 NT games will give him one 'normal friendly/70%' training every 3.5 weeks

so in one season he will gain around 4 trainings 'extra', assuming he playes each week and never gets injured

which is wishful thinking when we're talking about strikers and especially when it's a case of 1-skilled striker with high technique, which was discussed earlier

ergo 1 injury = he gains basically nothing
2017-02-24 23:59:31
moreover in my opinion those factors are rather closer to 0,8 in friendly and 0,3 in NT so that gains would be even smaller
2017-02-25 00:16:31
0,7 friendly
0,5 NT
?


No

0,71 = nt + friendly
0,5 = friendly


That is the factor, if we agree friendly is 70% of max training, and that would give 42% extra training then if you didnt have the NT match......


But tell me, how many % of max training you believe a friendly is??? Cause without doubt, NT+Friendly =100 % training, this has been confirmed to an admin by greg, and shown the post multiple times
2017-02-25 00:17:30
normal friendly/70%' training every 3.5 weeks

now you are just making up numbers
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2017-02-25 00:43:47
this has been confirmed to an admin by greg, and shown the post multiple times

never heard about that
2017-02-25 02:56:14
No

0,71 = nt + friendly
0,5 = friendly


no

official = 0.90
friendly = 0.70
NT = 0.50

friendly + NT = x

x is around 0.80-0.90

Cause without doubt, NT+Friendly =100 % training

and that's exactly where you are 100% wrong:)
and no, it was never confirmed by anyone, so don't lie:)

the way things were made in sokker there is no chance of 100% training

every additional match adds some % to already acquired training and it's not 70+50, 90+70 etc.

it has been discussed on forum lots of times, I even remember explain it to you how it works, apparently you already forgot...
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2017-02-25 02:59:08
read the math i made about those number, im talking about a pop not about % of max training, it is part of a equation, if you dont understand the equation, dont try to play smart about it.......

And yes it was confirmed, ill find the quote soon for you.
2017-02-25 03:01:01
every additional match adds some % to already acquired training and it's not 70+50, 90+70 etc.

Once again, i have not said that one single time... if you dont understand the math i shown to you right here, dont try to be smart and say im wrong, show it to someone who knows math who can tell you, you are making a fool of yourself right now.

2017-02-25 03:02:15
And yes it was confirmed, ill find the quote soon for you.

show me the quote and where it was posted, then we can talk

and stop saying 'if you don't understand math blablabla'
math is not the point when your data is clearly wrong