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Subject: Sokker helper - for player price estimation and prediction.

2014-03-07 18:13:45
my winger:

Actual bid: 19 250 €
Estimated price: 5 348 371 €

we will see how close it will be :p
2014-03-07 18:42:29
way too high ;)
2014-03-07 20:18:41
This player is currently on transfer list I hope :)
2014-03-07 22:52:49
thats the guy with low passing and pm i assumed was his price. i estimate 4.5
2014-03-07 23:21:28
yup, that's him

I also think that he will go for 4.5-5m

although he is worth more due to his additional trainings...I don't know if it will have impact on the price though
2014-03-08 00:42:49
he is worth more because of his pace and tech imo. but its just the market is weird about players being balanced. to me he is better with high pace and tech because he can beat a player and that is the important part. if he has 4x brilliant/magical maybe he wont get past a divine defender. so his passing wont matter against a strong team.
EDIT: i also thought i saw he was 28... so maybe towards the 5m mark indeed. its funny because if you take his PM and passing skill and combine into striker skill he is worth 8m
the market is always strange. value is determined a lot on what people are told or see players are worth. if a lot of us say he is worth 8m, someone will think hmm 7.5m is a bargain.
others will see he went for this and buy next player for 7m. or maybe he is desperate and needs to buy and takes a similar player for 8m.
the stock market system of the current market is amusing.
i liked how last season striker prices crashed to really low :)
(edited)
2014-03-08 00:59:11
yeah, it's always hard to tell...

to be hones I myself considerem him a 'weakling'...but he already has 2 top level skill and if he pops in def, pm and passing [all very close to pop] then he will be a nice winger already...and the worst part, pace training, is already past him
2014-03-08 17:39:54
Great job. Really great toll.
2014-03-08 22:01:59
Estimated price: 5 348 371 €
Actual price: 4 332 705 $
2014-03-09 13:14:34
hmm since he did the last update my team is now really incorrect.
it was very accurate before this
2014-03-09 13:49:49
My team estimation is now way too low aswell :)
My 22 yo Krydus is now only worth 7.3 mill(tool-estimation), but I'm sure I can sell him for 11 mill :)
2014-03-09 14:07:15
D@ni to ciury
I think it's worse than it was before,maybe older players are more accurate a little but youngsters are messed up,like 2x outstanding 17yo defender worth just 2mil € ;) and often when you raise the skills the value of player decreases.

I have second best Polish 17yo defender and and according your estimator he is worth 1mil € and I am sure he is worth 2-3 times more ;)

by the way, why do you limited it to 20k transfers? more players means more accurate estimation.
2014-03-09 15:31:43
not necessarily ;)
he only has data on this amount of players i think.

i agree though that young players are highly undervalued currently.
2014-03-09 16:07:44
I understand it as limitation to 20k transfers to keep values accurate to current part of season but maybe it's my overinterpretation ;)
2014-03-10 00:46:16
ciury to D@ni
Yes, this is correct. 17 yo players were more expensive at the beginning of the season, so we don't want to consider those prices, but the most recent ones. Also prices change. The old estimation used all transactions. I have a few players who are underevaluated, but that's because they are pretty "special" for example I have a MID with some keeper abilities. Because of these skills, in the estimation avarage, some keepers which aren't so valuable are taken into consideration, so that's the reason.

Anyway, I will check these days to see if I can make any improvements, thanks everybody for the feedback.
2014-03-10 08:23:58
I really think you're doing a great job, but finding the right estimation for every player with Some calculations is very very hard, if not impossible... Now my normal players their value estimations look pretty good, but my better players their value is 3 Mill too low in my opinion :)

You are really doing great ciury! But i'm getting the feeling the previous player estimations were better?