Subject: Question about training

well except that there are Greg quotes of him saying 2 full matches will give max training, and that NT is 50% of official club match...

Thanks for the information. I didn´t knew it.
So, according to "2 full matches will give max training, and (that) NT is 50% of official club match" we have:
game 1 + game 2 = 100 (no matter what 1 and 2 is) // and not 90 or 95
and game NT = 45 // and not 50

Something like this?

Yes, i think those numbers are correct. And CC matches are 90 percent too.

And there are those who disagree with numbers presented :)

So there is difference in playing 1 league + 1 friendly and 1 league + 0,5 friendly?

Acc. to the model presented above, there is NO difference; 1 league + 0,5 friendly give you already 100 (90 + 37,5).
But in my opinion these numbers are lower, I would say that league is closer to 80% and friendly maybe 66% of max. training time? It is also highly possible that the gain of additional time is not linear... we can only guess here.

agreed.
i always found league game ~85%
friendly ~70%
both ~100%

there is definitely big benefit in 2 games per week vs 1, but much better to have 10 trainees instead of 5 longterm.

i would even maybe agree with your numbers. but i think 66% is maybe too low for friendlies.
although maybe this is why i never see 1 week training increases even with awesome coaches and close to max talent trainees.

"So there is difference in playing 1 league + 1 friendly and 1 league + 0,5 friendly? "

The only difference is that the possibility of an injury is higher in the first case.
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I use these numbers in the past 3 seasons and I can predict exactly the popups of my players. I stoped calculating the training in percentage (%) - I calculate it on TM (TM stands for trained minutes) and the maximum TM per week is 100.

So if player gets 90 min. of league match and 30 min. od friendly, he gets 100% of training?

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Yes

@ kenyard & goth

Have you calculated it?

I monitor the training on excel and with 90 and 75 it shows to be OK, but the gt seems to be more than 10% - it seems to be close to 12,5%.

I think with 85 and 70 - or 80 and 66 - gt will be closer to 10%. So once again, have you calculated it or do you know anybody who has done it?

Thanks for your constructive participation in this discussion :)

So, there are three scenarios:

A. Official 90 TM - Friendly 75 TM for playing full games (written by me)

B. Official 85 TM - Friendly 70 TM for playing full games (written by kenyard)

C. Official 80 TM - Friendly 66 TM for playing full games (written by goth)


Full training of 100 TM in a week (TM = training minutes):
A. Official 90 minutes + Friendly 12 minutes
or Official 25 minutes + Friendly 90 minutes

B. Official 90 minutes + Friendly 15 minutes
or Official 31 minutes + Friendly 90 minutes

C. Official 90 minutes + Friendly 20 minutes
or Official 35 minutes + Friendly 90 minutes

If anybody has calculated it, please let me know :)
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I made some calculations, but it was 6 years ago and data is lost with my old computer. But then I realized that this is senseless. First, there is always important random factor, which makes it impossible to simply calculate. Second, it doesn't really matter - it makes no real difference if 12 or 15 minutes is needed for full training. We know the general idea and exact figures are secondary.
I personally think that something close to scenario B is real. But repeat - I don't care much if this is A or C or something else, as it doesn't change anything in my gameplay.

Has this x3 pop happened to anyone else before? first time in all my years here... not the best player and i wished he was younger, but it is still fun indeed.

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